Obama Monkey T-Shirts…

Now this is just wrong…or maybe just the beginning. Americans have been pretty civilized in accepting/dealing with the black democratic front-runner so far. I guess it’s about time for it to get real. Real what, you tell me…

I know, I know…he said “deplicted”.

 

 

 

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27 Responses to Obama Monkey T-Shirts…

  1. Cami B

    It was really very disheartening to see this on tv the other day….though, I can’t say I am surprised. I knew it was coming, it was always more a “when”, than an “if”. But it hurts nonetheless because I truly believe with all my heart that Barack Obama is a brilliant wonderful man. And to see someone diminish and demean him in this way honestly hurts. There are people in this country who will never see Barack for who he is as a man and what he represents. They won’t even vote for him to help themselves. Ignorance personified. There are people, I’ve debated with on different blogs, who are so racist that they would not allow a highly qualified African-American doctor operate on their sick child. So for all the morons who will routinely cut off their noses to spite their faces, I will pray for you. And whether they you like it or not Barack Obama will be the next president of these United States. And if you don’t like it, to use your phrasing, “leave!” Oh, wait, you can’t leave…..you don’t have any money and most of you have never left your pitiful little dirt road towns and trailer parks….

  2. Here’s my thought. I think that while this kind of racism was pretty common in the past, these things are now much more of an aberration. There will be folks who hang on to their old prejudices, no matter what, but they will become fewer and fewer. The young ones campaigning for Obama who were shocked by the hatred they’ve heard were shocked precisely because their own parents had taught them that such hatred was evil. Not too many years ago parents didn’t raise their children that way. In a sense, we should be grateful they were shocked because it is a sign of the way the country is heading – toward less acceptance of racist expression and prejudice.

  3. gavin

    i think this is such a joke. the t-shirt is hilarious and not offensive at all. its quite alright for blacks to have slogans depicting bush as a monkey, much less other things, but become outraged when the same is done to one of thier own. it is ok for blacks to have their negro college funds, their own radio and television stations, their own fubu clothing lines, but god forbid whites have any of these! ask yourself; if there was a white only television station or white only college fund, what would happen!? exactly. and i almost forgot, it is quite alright for jesse jackson, and al sharpton, and the chicken shit louis farrakahn to use terms like cracker, whitey, and honkey but god forbid some white radio host make a comment about some 7 ft tall female basketball players, HALF of which were white!!!! give me a break. at this rate, ill be cutting reparation checks by christmas. what a joke… btw, i make well into six figures a year, and i do not live in a trailer park, so take that back to your ghetto and think about it.

  4. Everybody makes shirts depicting Bush, but black people are not at the forefront of that cottage industry! If you’re going to make a racist comment, please come with something that is non-typical and well thought out. College Funds, Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakahn, etc…that’s so 10 years ago. “Boo Hoo! I’m a powerful, high paid white man and the Black people are messing with me! Booo HOOOO” That’s what you sound like. I would think that someone making “six figures” could do better than that. Oh, but I forgot…if you’re all that but you take time out of your day to make trivial comments about black people…you must be kinda sad and sorry and I’m not impressed with that.

    Great people, happy people don’t tear others down just to tear them down. I can understand making a well thought out point about why you feel so negatively about black people…fine. However, it’s not worth anyone’s time for you to come here are repeat the same racist bullshi* you heard someone else say. Have your own mind.

  5. Chris B

    six figures. did you hear? lol.

  6. Well, here I sit in my ghetto thinking. And thinking and thinking. People amaze me … and sometimes in positive ways, but not today. I wonder which USA Gavin lives in:

    “[...] it is ok for blacks to have their negro college funds, their own radio and television stations, their own fubu clothing lines, but god forbid whites have any of these!

    Obviously his USA is in some parallel universe that doesn’t have any of the media conglomerates, fashion houses, old boy networks and systems of nepotism that the rest of us see all around us.

    ask yourself; if there was a white only television station or white only college fund, what would happen

    Um, Gavin, look around, and you can see what happens: the world turns as it always has. No one blinks an eye because those networks serve what folks like to call the. dominant. culture. Business as usual. Standard operating procedure.

    Enough about Gavin. I can’t imagine he spends any time checking back to read responses to his outpourings of bile. Seems more like the type to drop in, spew hate, drop back out.

    I’m disheartened to see the t-shirts, but I think I’m not as shocked as my heart wants me to be. Like Cami, I think I’ve been holding my breath, waiting for this, knowing that it was bound to come. I woke up this morning hearing about Huckabee’s NRA speech and I’m ending the day hearing about this t-shirt. Guess today it’s time for me to exhale …

  7. NB

    I hope this doesn’t come off the wrong way, but why does the media always find some African-American at the scene who invariably starts a sentence with “I seent the whole thang!” No offence to the good reverend, but the media needs to interview someone a little more articulate and one that will not embarrass the African-American community and have white people snickering at this depliction.
    Second, ya’ll can’t deal with that man in a more, oh, extra-judiacl manner, as it were? I mean a fucking monkey? WTF?

  8. NB

    Oh….and fuck Gavin? 6 figures? Bitch please. We don’t believe you.

  9. Cami B

    @Gavin
    You are oblivious. You have no concept of reality beyond your lily white world. First off, African-American people were treated and viewed as less than human. The “monkey” is something that racist people routinely associate with African-Americans in a derogatory way to make us feel inferior. Being someone on the outside looking in and not seeing the forest for the trees you would have no comprehension of where the outrage comes from. Think of it like this…what if there was a Jewish man running for the Presidency and some idiot decided to make t-shirts depicting skeletal bodies from the Holocaust? Or maybe something eluding to gas chambers or the third reich? When people are offended by this kind of thing it is for good reason, but people like you who have no empathy for others because you live in your lily white world with your “six figures”. And just the fact that you came on here and made the asinine comments you made, demonstrates that money or no money, schooling or no schooling, you are ignorance personified. ROTFL @”back to your ghetto” If this was a response to what I said about trailer parks, I must have struck a cord with you. That wasn’t my intent, if you don’t live in a trailer park and you are not racist none of what I said applies to you. But I am well aware that you don’t have to live in a trailer to be racist trash Gavin.

  10. Get used to seeing stuff like the monkey-T and there will be more to come. Why??? Simple. Black People say they want to end racism in America and yet they teach Black Liberation Theology in their churches. Last time I looked, James Cone was the father of Black Liberation Theology in the USA. According to him Blacks should kill any god who does not put the Black Race above all other races and also Blacks should not worship any God who does not support the complete destruction of the White Race.

    Expect an increasing trend towards white intolerance of such absurd teachings. What are we supposed to do, keep on being politically correct while Blacks in America go to church to learn how to annihilate us? Nothing doing. If Black People want racism in the USA to go away, they are going to have to be willing to do their part to make it go away and if they are not willing to do that, then they are going to have to live with things as they are.

    If they keep teaching this Black Liberation Theology BS, they are going to set race relations back 40 years.

    Terry Dunne

  11. REALLY?

    Really, Terry? That’s where you’re at with all this? That’s how it all sums up for you? It’s the “Black People” of the world that keep racism alive and kicking? And you’re an authority on this? A renowned researcher and overall humanitarian? A social mover and shaker with pure intentions to enlighten the masses with your unbiased opinion…

    You with your youtube site that blatantly perpetuates this kind of low-vibration-level crap. And don’t tell me you’re politically savvy, subscribing to your constitution…your freedom of expression. Stinky, smelly crap.

    Your opinion/judgment/belief is just another symptom to the illness that spreads from one sick-minded generation to the next?

    If my family and I are ever forced, at gun point, into segregation, in the unforeseeable future, I don’t want you in my “White” camp.

  12. Terry…you might want to actually talk to some African Americans. James Cone in my opinion is not the best reference for what is commonly referred to as black liberation. If there is a “father” of it…it’s Fredrick Douglas. READ some books! Dag! We (African Americans) know white history…but of course that’s 90% of the history you learn in most schools in the US, so no surprises there.

    You are one of those white folks who’ve been fooled into thinking that black people hate whites in the way some of you hate us. WE don’t go around espousing how white people should go back to Europe or how we want to have a race war and kill some crackers. That is your (i.e. white racist) style of hate mongering. Sure, I don’t doubt there are some black extremists, if you will. But don’t think those people represent or have the ear of the black masses. By and large, black people didn’t even know who Rev. Wright was until this whole Obama thing. We don’t support the type of thinking you’re talking about. Get your facts straight.

  13. Hi Sista .. everyone,

    After writing way too much last week — what turned out to be a whole lotta hoo-haa over nuthin’ — (I think I may have been in some semi-psychotic state or somethin’)…since I agreed but had read too fast, not taken time to think and reacted out of whatever what going on here those few days… only to back up, regroup, re write and apologize for sometimes being an idiot. Oh well.

    This may be about my last post here, but because I learn from what you write, I will continue to visit! I like that you have this space and that I can continue to learn from you even more about what it means to be black, African American, Negro in
    America now.

    A friend of mine in the International Grail is a theology prof (and former atty) at Georgetown U. She has been at the intellectual forefront of an evolving (!) Black Liberation Theology. She has several books, hopefully in print, all of which are awesome in my undeniably brilliant opinion : ) . Diana Hayes. If the books aren’t easily available, let me know and i will at least consider sharing the ones I have… :) . I only drop the name so you can check it out if you wish.

    I’ve written to Ms Hillary a couple times now nearly begging her to get on the team and work with our (I pray) soon-to-be President Obama! The shirts and other racist crap that is out there to be used against him is worse than disgusting. They serve to motivate me to do more on his campaign (that is not accurate: I’ve had no time to do a dang thing… but now I WILL find some!)

    He’s brillant, educated, thoughtful. Gosh, he even believes in dipolomacy over guns! He has an awesome potential to make wonderful changes for this sicko country and the world.

    However much I’ve respected and liked the Clinton’s in the past, I am truly offended by some of the tactics used in the race and am now praying they will let go of their craving for power and get on the damned bandwagon so the “real” enemy (McCain, far right etc) can be fought and (it’s a prayerful journey…) this battle won.

    Anyway, to each of you who read and responded before, thank you. To whomever responds today, thank you. For all the good you are and will do in the world, thank you. To each of you who contributes thoughts here, thank you. To allow people like me to show up here and write stuff, thank you. To allow racist assholes to post and then to confront them, thank you.

    Mostly I thank you for being a tiny part of my world and a bit of good energy to give me hope when I happen to run out. Thank you!

    With love, respect and passion for a better world,
    the crazy white ol’ woman in SE Michigan,

    Cindy

  14. REALLY?

    You’re anything but crazy, Cindy, and you’re certainly not an idiot. You’re aware, and that’s a lot more than I can say for/about the majority of living, breathing humans.

    Please, continue to voice your concerns, opinions and kudos. We all stumble. We all fall. And we all have the choice to get up again, smiling.

    Kudos to you…

  15. I think that’s my work website. I never remember it and never seem to get around to blogging. I just feel that however long and however “up close and personal” I’ve been in various black, Negro, African American CultureS, I’ll never have the experience of living while black…no matter how many times I was teased when working in one of the “worst” areas in DEtroit (s/e side, a large treatment program/shelter/lots else (coalition of 28 agencies on site), where i was often teased about being the ‘lil white girl who think she black” or told by some I have a”black soul”, but once experienced that (well I thought so) in a mountain village in Lesotho, 10 miles from the closest road, sitting talking with the village matriarch and “knowing” I’d lived there before (and i don’t even DO past lives). It was one of the most amazing moments in my life. I learned a little Sesotho, lived in the villages, met awesome folks, thoroughly loved being surrounded by “other”: tribal affiliations, languages, colors of skin, foods…no heat, no water, no electricity…In a few short weeks (way too short) I learned more than all the schooling, all the books in the world could have taught me. We brought back presents for everyone working and living at our Detroit program. (Zimbabwe was the most beautiful country I’ve ever seen, with some of the most beautiful art works I’ve ever experienced; and African music… wow!!!!!!!!!!. Anyway I wander.
    This trip was before apartheid fell and Nelson was freed of his 26 years of tortures, so we spent almost no time in SA because time=$ we would have had to spend there. In spite of it, on the trains and just in our wanderings we were gifted daily by the people, the cultureS, the landscapes and more. On our way home, we had to spend a night at a hotel for our flight out. Being “dumb” americans, of course we just had to try conversations with everyone. Even the maid who came to clean our room in the morning, even knowing if anything were overheard, she could be sent to jail or worse for talking to white folks, especially americans. Well for the longest time, she wouldn’t respond. Finally my partner Lin asked, “Is there hope?” This older African woman drew herself up tall and pround, grinning in a way that I will never forget and said,
    “Yes Madame, There IS hope!!!

    A poor African woman living in Soweto, no rights, an extremely poor and difficult life.. but.. with more strength of soul and joy in her heart than 10 million others who have it easy (including moi!). She will never know how deeply she inspires me, even now, some 15 years later.

    Back in Detroit… “R.”, an almost 40 black woman, had been severely abused in her family (too many tales of torture), had spend 8 years in a Tennessee prison on murder charges that should have just been self-defense (and would have been for a white women here). When I first met her several years before in a hospital where she was a 97 or less pound addict that none of the docs or staff gave a chance at “life”… WE (friends and me) got her to a small program (oldest one in the states for women( in Detroit. She had horrible circulation, so was always cold. She had bad neuropathy so when she would try leaning on radiators to get warm, she often suffered burns. She was too weak to walk up stairs, so we made a bed for her in the living room. When the larger program finally opened, I gave her a job in the shelter. I worried it would be too hard for her (though we did manage to fatten her up!) … so started scrounging for money for a receptionist job… and “promoted” her with a raise to all of $5.50 and benefits. Problem was, STAIRS to the fourth floor where the offices were (old school bldg.) Sometimes she scooted up on her butt..sometimes it took a few hours. Sometimes we’d just pick her up and haul her upstairs. She became my cohort in crime as we toured black, white, latino and any other kind of church or organization who would give us a moment to talk. She even led marches up Mack, gave speeches to hundreds…gave safety to every woman and kid coming in. All she wanted was dirt from Africa. She got that and other things. She ate the dirt with tears streaming down her face, “I finally feel like I’ve been to the mother land”. We sat, holding hands, both of us crying in silence for the longest time. We both knew she would not get there in this lifetime. Her best buddy (and mine) was Angela, a early recovery crackhead, who with her husband and kids single handedly got bedding, cots, decent food (and on and on) to get the shelter open (in an old drafty church) before folks started freezing to death. Gave her a job too when I scrounged up some money. Disaster! Hooked every bad energy that had ever come her way. Nearly every one but me and Lin thought she should be fired. Probably so, but her spirit was one we needed. So I made a job … to “get stuff’ and her crack head self used every street skill she had and brought in more donations in 6 months than I could pay her in 3 years! Including a new van for our ladies and kids. I asked Angela once if I gave her a book, would she read it (I donated over a thousand books out of my personal library — every time someone borrowed one permanently, it was a victory!) I gave her book about growing up on the “Mean streets of John R” where she had been raised. Days later she called me at home, “I had to lock myself in teh bathroom . I read and I read and I laugh and I laugh and the kids get ignored and so does my hubby. … then she paused, “I didn’t know black women could write books!” “And now you do, so get out there and do it!”… Well, her book didn’t get written, but she did get back to school and earned a degree! She too became a marvelous spokeswoman. Audacious (how’s that spelled?) as hell; my soul sister forever… And here she thought I “made her BE somebody”. Bah. She was always Somebody. Too bad more people didn’t know that!

    A few years later, Rosiezina died of heart disease and Angela of lung cancer. Both under age 50. Both got over 10 clean years and quality of life for a while. I got them both in my heart. Forever.

    We were 85/15 black/white ratio in Detroit; now I’m only white on the care team, the only lesbian and the oldest on staff. I wouldn’t have it any other way. If I hang out with people like me .. . gad, what a bore. If I hang with people not exactly like me…what a treat. Oh the assumptions about what i’m about… fun to blow people’s minds that i am not… what they would comfortably think about who I am.
    I wish everyone (white especially) would spend some time being the “minority” It is full of joy, fun, wisdom and all good things. That is what I know for sure.

    That I why I love this place and I’d be more than happy to buy a t-shirt, but me thinks I could just get myself killed if I wore it!

    And the coolest thing yet, my grandson Kyle who DHS in Chicago was ready to throw away when he was only 5 called excitedly last night: he was out hiking, traversing a beaver damn when he heard a cry for help. He managed to find a long enough log, calm the kid down, get him to grab on to the stick … and pull him to safety. He said, “And the coolest thing was…. I got a new friend!” An out of control wounded -soul at 5; a hero at 13. Life is full of miracles.

    YES, Madames (I mean that in a good way) [and Gentlemens too},
    there IS hope,
    love
    Cindy
    I think I’m too blabby to stop writing….

  16. Thanks. I wrote at length last night, all geeked up with no where to go at midnight! It’s not up here yet because I think I used a different email address. Or maybe I put it somewhere else on this website. I don’t have a clue and it is probably not worth any one (even me) doing a hunt and search for

    My current definition of being an “idiot”: when I forget that which is so obvious every single day.

    Let me explain: For over 40 years with I-don’t-know how many African American people, the burden is and always has been on me to prove that I’m “OK for a white girl.” Once in a while, (gladly not often, ALWAYS out of my own stress/burnout), I don’t want to have to do that any more. Very infrequently I get tired of having to work so hard to build bridges, trust, relationship across racial and cultural boundries.

    Most of the time, my memory serves me well and building bridges is just what I do because that is what I love to do. But on some really bad days, I forget — and for me, that is being an idiot– and I speak before I remember: slavery, Jim Crow, embedded racism everywhere, Tuskeegee, lynchings, burning crosses, burning homes and businesses, and more; lots more…

    Then I think, STOP, this is exactly how is should be for me. If I were black, I would do the same: demand proof (look me straight in the eyeballs, wait and see how I act, etc.) that the white person I’m dealing with is “OK for a white person.” I got nothing to cop an attitude about. Had the peoples of Africa not been subjected to the horrors of slavery, racism, being defined as something other than or less than the ugly pale people who enslaved and tortured them … for century upon century upon century and NOW … it wouldn’t have to be this way. When I stop accepting, even for a minute, that it is what it is because of what African peoples have survived and overcome… THAT is a clear sign that I’m being an idiot. or whatever word might be better for it. Gladly it doesn’t happen often and gladly, I usually am self-aware enough to stop.

    I say, “Sticking one’s foot in one’s mouth makes it difficult to talk and impossible to walk.”

    I have never met a person who was “less” than I am; we are more the same than different; we are all in this human situation on this tiny planet together. I could have 52 degrees, 75 billion bucks, all the mucky muck titles in the world and 90 mansions, the Noble peace prize and a Pulitzer… and ya know what? I would still be just equal to every one else. Just human.

    So my wish for the day is that the “monkey” t-shirt man gag on his soul and drop dead on his pogo stick … better yet, may his pogo stick fall off his body and he can gag on that.

    Ok, I really have to do some work now. Here I am hoping I’m not creating even more hoo-haa.

    Kudus right back
    me

  17. John

    Obama hates America…period.

  18. SCOTT

    I’m not interested in the 1st arabic american president in the form of Hussein Obama. As far as the Monkey reference- don’t all you educated college dummies beleive in evolution? If so, then you should be honored to reflect your monkey heritage- wear the T shirt and be proud0 dummies.

  19. oh brother

    Well that shirt is just stupid and funny .I’m black and think it makes that white dude look like a monkeys butt lol. I voted for hilary not obama anyway ,just because I’m black is no reason to vote for a black guy,this is some funny stuff,I would where the shirt just to laugh at the black guy who was protesting, its people like that,that only make things worse. And this is coming from me a black man. If people want to make fun of obama so what ,your not going to stop it anyway. But crying about it will only make it worse. That white guy thats selling the shirts got what he wanted,the media.

  20. Nick

    I love Condi; I wish she was running for President. She would have my vote. The problem YOU have is because I don’t agree with Obama’s ultra liberal policies, have a problem with the racist, anti-American ravings of his spouse, and think that the tee-shirt is an accurate characature, you label me an ignorant racist.
    The truly sad thing is your ignorance and how you minimize blacks, (or, how do you say it Oreos? Uncle Toms?) who have done truly great things. Yet you are so quick to throw the racist label on whoever criticizes, or pokes fun at blacks whose political views are left of center.
    Also, I didn’t know that all people who live in trailers are ignorant racists… seems like you are classifying a group of people based on where they live and making assumptions there intelligence based on their address. I’m sure you’re right though, you people are never wrong.

    BTW, I’m sure you already know this but for the people who are not as smart as you. .. Republicans freed the slaves, Democrats fought to keep them in chains.

  21. Cami B

    @Nick
    I think you should re-read my posts. I said that I am aware that a person doesn’t have to live in a trailer park to be racist trash. If you are going to comment, make sure you know what you are commenting on. And as I have said before this has nothing to do with the caricature. This has to do with the fact that an entire race of people were looked at as less than human. And if you are not offended by that, you are ignorant. But you know what as they say ignorance is bliss…you wouldn’t know what this feels like because you are on the outside looking in.

  22. Nick

    Cami, why do you lie and distort? In your post you said,”Oh, wait, you can’t leave…..you don’t have any money and most of you have never left your pitiful little dirt road towns and trailer parks….”
    People see what they want to see, you see hate, I see a funny picture.
    There was a picture of President Bush comparing his facial expressions to a monkey, but in your logic that’s ok because white people were never called monkeys therefore its ok to compare individual whites to monkeys. I guess you are saying that blacks were called monkeys so now they are not as well equipped (inferior to whites?) to deal a picture that looks like him or her.
    The question is this, why do you think of blacks as inferior? I think it unfair of you to speak for the entire race and say that the picture is racist.
    The problem I have with Barack Hussein Obama is that he is an ultra-liberal, American hating, unqualified, weak, candidate who will do much harm to this country and only hurt all races. It is a real shame, if only he was as intelligent as Curious George, at least George would learn from mistakes.

  23. Nick

    Oh Cami,
    A quick history lesson, here is a very short list of groups (start with these) that were look on as less than human. I think you should scour the world for any propaganda that may upset anyone in these groups so you can stifle the free speak of the “ignorant” and make them feel
    Jews
    Italians
    Irish
    American Indians
    Indians
    Scottish
    Polish
    Russians
    Mongolians

  24. Ted

    Oh look, a room full of open-minded people who aren’t being brainwashed by the Republican elite, who try to make you think that they’re looking out for you and your family, that Obama hates America and that the war hungry Rebublicans are your sweet little innocent “patriotic” friends.

    What a smart group we have here. Ill bet they’re all struggling to get by, while Bush and McBush tell them it’s all ok, while passing out hand-outs to the billionaires. Too bad, I’m just a democrat that cares about health care, equality, rights, education, the earth and good economy.

    Can someone tell me where I can get a stupid hat so I can think the way these idiots do? You know, the ones that can’t even read a newspaper article (not the sports section and ads). Articles written by intelligent people, not Rush Limbaugh. Stuff with truths and facts. Facts that show that Obama is a good guy and wants equality for all. As a person, and as a President, he is a stand-up, honest person, Yet because you have the label of being republican, and he’s running as a Democrat…right away, he’s a bad person.

    You people, geez! Wake up! Don’t you see how fooled you are? Republicans are primarily blue collar Americans, right? That’s nothing bad. What’s bad is that your Repbulican government brainwashes you and then turns around and ripss you off Their very own! What’s bad is that so many of you hate and hate and hate, but then you’re religious.

    Wake up, please!

    And here’s some controversy for you… http://barackstar08.com/hussein–please-vote–give-us-your-opinion-on-which-one-to-make.html or go to http://www.barackstar08.com

  25. Cami B

    @ Nick
    I have not lied or distorted anything, that appears to be your motivation. There are two posts by me above, read both before you stick your foot further in your mouth. Why is it you seem more apathetic toward other groups who have been denigrated and made to feel less human? It doesn’t matter, this is my last post on the subject. You have your opinion, and I have mine and they won’t change over the course of a few posts on-line. Whatever your opinion of me from my perspectives on this, I have just tried to make you and some like you see the bigger picture.

  26. Cami B

    @Nick
    My first post responding to you was the 3rd post I’ve made on here. You seem to have read the first one and skipped the second…

  27. Ken

    I read some of the comments, especially those by Cami B and Gavin. While I understand where they are both “coming from”, the name calling gets us nowhere. When terrorist struck the World Trade Center in New York, they did not ask if the victims would be black or white, rich or poor, young or old, Republican or Democrat; they only saw Americans that they wanted dead. Are we going to help them by hating fellow Americans? I could care less whether Gavin lives in a trailer or a penthouse, he deserves respect and I don’t care if Cami B. lives in a ghetto or a mansion, she deserves respect. Put the verbal knives away; Osama Bin Laden sees you both as equals: a target.

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